Leaders around the world need not just passion but also compassion to bring about change according to the outgoing United Nations Secretary-General.

Ban Ki-moon who is leaving the UN after 10 years leading the organization, says the new Secretary-General, Antonio Guterres, has those qualities.

Ari Gaitanis has been speaking to Mr Ban ahead of his departure at the end of the month.

Duration: 2’51”

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