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COP27 PODCAST: Now the hard work begins

COPs are a marathon, not a sprint. During the first week, country negotiators set the parameters for the serious, and often exhausting, horse-trading that begins next week, when ministers fly in, with the aim of hammering out a consensus agreement by the end of the conference. On today’s show, Laura and Conor speak to Selwin Hart, the UN Secretary-General’s special advisor on climate, and Rueanna Haynes, a climate negotiator for the Alliance of Small Island States (AOSIS), about the progress made so far; and Conor sits down with Lily Cole, model, environmental activist and advisor to the UN Economic Commission for Europe (UNECE), on how to bring the huge environmental cost of the fashion industry under control. Music: Within the Earth, Ketsa