Some countries are defining “whomever they like” as terrorists and exhibiting “deep and problematic” inconsistencies over how they treat family members of suspected extremists in places like northeast Syria and Iraq.

That’s according to Fionnuala Ní Aoláin, the UN independent human rights expert dealing with counter-terrorism.

She says that many of the women and children associated with former ISIL terrorist fighters are themselves victims, and it’s a big mistake to curb their rights or define them simply by association.

Ms. Ní Aoláin was at UN Headquarters a few days ago to delivery her annual report to the General Assembly. She told Matt Wells what her main message had been.